Hi Queenjr!
Thanks for sharing your view.
Yes I agree, our dramas are long and some predictable. However, I really want our dramas to be appreciated too by other nationalities, just like how we like their dramas..
I hope they will also have some strong dramas that tackle culture and sensitive topics, like Korea's "Pinocchio" that tackles media have you seen that one? or "My Husband Got a Family" which tackles family traditions against modern belief. I really wish we have those kind of dramas.
and yeah, TV networks really doesn't want their dramas readily available in public, maybe loss of profit they deem?
Filipino dramas tend to be directed toward a more older female audience which myself being a young male doesn't really appeal to us and it's not supposed to obviously which I don't mind but it is a loss of viewership.
But they have recently started to showcase their power teen couples to bring in the youth demographic but it's still the same soapy stories which tend to be very long and somewhat boring especially during the middle parts which often take months to complete.
Filipino movies on the other hand are definitely on the up, aside from the usual cheesy rom-coms. There's been a lot more risque, thought provoking and better produced films coming out of the area in the last 3-5 years.
So I'm hoping with the recent success on the movie side of things, it would trickle or spread toward the television route but it's really tough to say. TV Production value has always been an issue to me. It looks and sounds really cheap like handheld camcorder quality so small budgets are more likely the cause of blame.
I do think the current political environment also has a lot to with what is being shown. The shows on now are very similar if not the same as the ones shown before, with just a few tweaks here and there which tells me that creativity isn't being embraced as much as opposed to just staying with the status quo.
Where does this lead to? I'm not sure. It be nice to think that maybe one day an original Filipino drama the likes of Healer or Signal would breakout and signal positive change but then again, maybe the older crowd wouldn't want it.
We can only hope though.
What turns me off from Philippine TV dramas are (1) their numerous but extremely short episodes, (2) lack of coherence, and (3) cliched and unrealistic elements. And these could also be the reasons why our dramas are not appreciated by other countries.
It's obvious we still follow the pattern of Latin American telenovelas. These short episodes usually do not tell a standalone story on their own. You have to piece several short episodes together to see a single plot line, and I do not have the patience for that.
Many Philippine dramas also fall victim to their lack of coherence. Take Inday Will Always Love You, for example. It started with the premise that Happylou is a simple girl who moves to Cebu and will fall in love with her boss, Patrick (very cliched plot btw). The show was quite interesting because it promised to explore the Cebuano culture, which is uncommon in Philippine dramas since most of our shows are set in the capital. However, all of those are not the focus of the show now; it now focuses on the struggles of Happylou and her family in the hands of Amanda. The Cebuano culture exploration? Forgotten for the sake of repeating the cliched drama of a rich woman terrorizing the girl who loves her son.
Latin American telenovelas also influenced the kinds of plot elements that most Philippine dramas have, and most of them are cliched and unrealistic. The cliched villainous woman who's rich and has goons, which we adopted from Latin American telenovelas, is so tiring already, but the trope still appears in many of our dramas (see example above) because it's an easy way to put conflict, which screams LAZY to me. Most of the plots, too, are unrealistic, which makes me feel detached from them, and as a viewer, it is important for me to relate to the story. While I do not expect our shows to feature LGBT+ leads that I could relate with, even our hetero leads are hard to relate with. Do you know a girl terrorized by her boyfriend's mother?
I see some shows trying to break the norm, but most are unsuccessful given the country's political climate and the viewers' non-acceptance of change.
There are some really good filipino films like Dekada Sitenta or Tanging Yaman. I usually recommend films over dramas because the dramas tend to go on forever (50 episodes is really short for a filipino drama); also, this is my personal opinion, but I think Filipinos do better with pure drama and no romance.
I say ‘no romance’ because I noticed that a lot of the serious romantic stuff includes cheating, adultery and third parties. There is also a lot of that when it comes to other asian dramas...but I noticed that with Filipino dramas, they tend to show adultery in a positive* light, which I don’t like. Case in point, in Bata Bata Paano Ka Ginawa (this is one of the popular, highly reviewed films that came out about a decade ago) the main heroine goes on to sleep with her ex boyfriend...right after she meets and makes friends with his wife. And she is portrayed as a ‘good character.’
In Etiquette for Mistresses, a girl tries to meet the man she loves during a political event and the film frames this in a cute, romantic light. Except that the guy is married, and his wife is right there beside him during the event.
I see a lot of cheating in other dramas (korean, thai, etc) but they are usually portrayed as negative, which is what I prefer.
I don’t like normalizing adultery and even making justifications for it, which I see too often in Filipino romance. Filipino romance also usually focus on love triangles- most often it’s two women fighting over a man, and in some cases it’s a man and woman fighting over a man. Male characters are usually put on a pedestal in a sense that even after they cheat on their wives, she still does everything to win him back. In Korean, Thai and Chinese dramas- the cheating has negative consequences -> for the male character, who happens to be the married one, so I say this is deserved. In Filipino dramas, it’s usually the women who suffer. The guy just gets away with it since the script treats him like he’s so important.
So yeah, I usually don’t like to get into Philippine romances BUT I highly recommend their family dramas (they do family bonding very well) or just pure dramas with no romance.
“Do you know a girl terrorized by her boyfriends mother?”
I know of a lot of women clashing with their mother in laws- does that count? I also know of a man clashing with his in laws. In dramaland, the characters and situations are exaggerated (of course) but some things may have taken/influenced by real life experiences.
We seem to have a culture where everytime the man cheats, the wife’s only option seems to be to attack the third party without holding the married man accountable for his actions. It was like that during my grandma’s time, and sadly it is the same now. I can’t recall how many times I’ve seen videos of a wife attacking her husband’s ‘kabit’ (mistress/girlfriend); I’ve had a housekeeper who left the province to go to the main city and she did that because she was looking for her husband who dumped her for another woman. She was going to beg him to take her back. Just the other day, the Abs Cbn newsite released an article on cheating- but in it, they imply that the reason the man cheats is because the wife was ‘lacking’ in some way, and that they needed to discuss the issue. The only thing good about the article is that it says that there’s no point in ‘attacking the third party’ because your husband will just cheat again. At least they got that right! But there is no mention of the problem being the fault of the man. It is always the assumption that it’s the wife who is to blame.
Most viewers of Philippine dramas still have that old fashioned mentality- another reason why the way they treat adultery in dramas needs to change. Right now, there’s another upcoming drama where the heroine gets involved with a married man...done a lot of times already; is this really someone we want to look up to?
If they want to make a drama that has adultery in it, why not something like ‘The Fierce Wife’
(Spoiler)
where the wife does the right thing and dumps the cheating husband’s ass? That would be someone to look up to.
Well, one of the reasons I think they make adultery seem "good" in filippino dramas where the wife still wanting her cheating hubby and attacking his mistress etc , is because divorce in philippiness is impossible. Philippines and vatican are the only places on earth where divorce is illegal.. so even if the wife wants to divorce her husband its impossible, so the wife then thinks "better make best of it and still be with my cheating husband cuz there is nothing I can do about it anyways,.. All I can do is attack his mistress"
I notice that the Philippines and Italy have that in common- their cinema seems to show adultery in a positive light. Ironic, since they are both catholic countries.
I think one way of dealing with that on film is to at least show the cheater (the married man) punished for his actions and maybe repent his ways. They don’t even show that in the script. In ‘Etiquette for Mistresses’ one of cheaters was even portrayed like some kind of saint. When he had a heart attack, story shows him in hiding with his mistress. The wife and daughter didnt know where he was and they were really worried about him- the script made it seem like it was their fault, and that he was this poor little victim entrapped by marriage.
Religion or not, it’s not right for these scripts to keep portraying this cheating men as if they didn’t do anything wrong. I honestly don’t know why such movies even get made but well, there you have it.
For the record, i don’t think this means that filipinos cheat more than others- i believe it’s the same everywhere (korea, japan, the usa, etc) i just don’t like the way it’s treated on script. I wish these writers would come up with better ideas.
Filipino Dramas are mostly too repetitive or full of cliches because I think they only cared about what clicks before to the viewers. In fact, they may even have this mindset wherein if this cheesy/repetitive/cliche scenes click well, then they will feature it again on another drama with the same plot actually. Aside from that, Filipino Dramas are being milked once they achieved higher ratings and if their show achieved lower ratings, then they have to end the show early despite how good the plot of the tv show is for some people actually.
I am happy now that production media companies in the Philippines are now stepping up. They now show a canned series/series that is finished shooting and they don't rely on tv ratings like Init sa Magdamag and La Vida Lena of ABS-CBN, and Legal Wives and The World Between Us of GMA.
They now also make a short series that only have 5 to 12 episodes like He's Into Her, Oh Mando!, My Sunset Girl, Unloving U, I am U, Taiwan That You Love, and Bagman where the lead actor won Best Actor in Asia Academy Creative Awards.
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